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The Directors ([personal profile] productions) wrote in [community profile] murdermanor2013-11-07 09:26 am
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[personal profile] inthebones 2013-11-07 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think it would have been difficult. Simply take the kunai and plant it in the middle of the chest. May would awaken and immediately think that the fault was her own. That May would confess to the crime rather than allow someone else to die in her place has always been evident in her character.

Luck, of course, must have played a part. I don't know if anyone could have expected that May would walk in then.
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[personal profile] throe 2013-11-07 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Someone here is certainly fortitudinous then. [ She smirks for a moment, but then goes back to her neutral state. ] I guess they didn't think to consider shooting someone would leave an obvious wound. Or a bullet in the wall.
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[personal profile] inthebones 2013-11-07 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
...Is that what explains the wound that goes out the back?

[Susan doesn't have the least idea what gonnes can do, in truth.]

Perhaps they took the kunai and stabbed on both ends to make it appear as if it were inflicted by something other than a gun. And, of course, a bullet is quite small. It might not have been discovered.
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[personal profile] throe 2013-11-07 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
[ She shakes her head. ]

That wouldn't make much sense. Why shoot the gun in the first place then? If they missed and only had one bullet to work with then maybe they'd use the kunai, but that would be cutting it way too close. They didn't know how long May would be unconscious, they would need something quick and efficient to work with.
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[personal profile] inthebones 2013-11-07 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
...Could the gonne-shot wound have come earlier, then? Before May entered the scene? The alteration was only thought of after the second altercation.

A gonne is extremely loud, though, by all accounts. Why didn't anyone hear anything?
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[personal profile] throe 2013-11-07 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know anything about guns, but I wondered the same thing. It was early on in the day, someone would have heard it. It had to have been after May was unconscious, at least. Unless she heard a shot ring out and rushed to where she heard it and isn't telling us, it wouldn't have made any sense to shoot Beat first.

It's a big risk to shoot a gun in the middle of the day. They use silencers in movies to make them quieter, but I don't know if it works the same in real life. [ She shrugs. ] I've never used a gun before so I can't really say.
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[personal profile] inthebones 2013-11-07 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
...If May had heard a gonne-shot, there isn't any reason she wouldn't tell us. But if it happened afterwards...

[She frowns.]

Then Beat wasn't stunned by the kunai to the shoulder. He continued fighting with the third person and they had no recourse but to shoot him, lacking the ability to overcome him.
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[personal profile] throe 2013-11-07 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
They probably remembered how the murder with Belarus turned out, so they got a weapon they knew would be able to take out someone with a lot of power. It would make Beat's murder definitely a planned one, because they would take into consideration that he's not easy to kill like a regular human is.
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[personal profile] inthebones 2013-11-07 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Since the bullet entered the east wall, they moved his body afterwards to the front of the altar, widened the entry and exit wounds with the kunai, and hid the bullet hole with the pew.

They attempted to clean up but realized May could awaken at any time, and so they left quickly.

Since this person planned Beat's death, they must have acquired two items. If we can locate or deduce the existence of either one, it will be clear that this crime wasn't committed in self-defense.
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[personal profile] throe 2013-11-07 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Let's hope it's not a mystery box this time. [ Ha ha ha. She allows herself a smirk for that one. ]

Do you think poison would account for his disorientation? The culprit thinks it might be easier to lure him into confusion so that he's easier to kill, just like Touko did with Belarus. They just didn't account for May showing up, so they wait to see what will happen and seize the opportunity of her being knocked unconscious.
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[personal profile] inthebones 2013-11-07 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
...Yes, I think it's possible. And... the whole scenario reminds me of... a disease. There's a disease that leads to madness and rage. It happens often in dogs.

If there's a poison that can mimic those effects...
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[personal profile] throe 2013-11-07 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
You mean rabies? May did say he kept trying to attack her even when she told him it was her... it's the same with dogs and rabies, right?

Guess we can't check until we're really sure he was poisoned.
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[personal profile] inthebones 2013-11-08 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
[A slight frown.]

We have the poison-detection kit, but I'm not sure how it might have been introduced. He was in the chapel, after all, not at breakfast.

...I suppose any poison would end up in his bloodstream eventually, but...

[Were they going to drain him of blood to test it for poison]
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[personal profile] throe 2013-11-08 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I think we should focus on finding the gun first. It might be our biggest factor in all of this, especially if it really is the one they gave us a clue for. There might still be some ammunition in it... or discarded in a place we haven't looked yet.
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[personal profile] inthebones 2013-11-08 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
I have the strangest feeling it won't be found before the end of the trial. Call it a premonition.
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[personal profile] throe 2013-11-08 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe you should start playing the lottery because something tells me that you're probably right.

[ It's amazing how Rapture can suddenly turn off and on her seriousness and trickster ways. ]
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[personal profile] inthebones 2013-11-08 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
[sigh gundam why do you make everything so difficult]

...In any case. I believe that's a fair working theory at this point - if we assume the poison or the drug used was one of the prizes, we should think about the other. The skeleton key wouldn't have been useful in this case, and the gonne ostensibly was already present in the house.
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[personal profile] throe 2013-11-08 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
Ammunition and poison? Poison and a secret passage leading to the chapel to avoid suspicion of being caught on the grounds early in the morning? Those are the only items I would really think matter in this case.
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[personal profile] inthebones 2013-11-08 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
A secret passage to the chapel...

[She hadn't considered that.]

...It would have to go underground, then, if it exists. It would certainly be helpful in placing yourself far from the scene of the crime.
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[personal profile] throe 2013-11-08 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
If the culprit needed an easy escape, but didn't want to draw any attention to themselves walking away from the chapel and toward the mansion, then it would make sense! It would give them a chance to sneak out and sneak back in through a completely different route.
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[personal profile] inthebones 2013-11-08 04:34 am (UTC)(link)
That would be very convenient. The murderer would then, of course, have plotted a murder revolving around the chapel, and having heard that May and Kaoru would be there, incorporated them into their plans somehow.

[A frown.]

Two people to frame, though... it's too much. They couldn't have known Kaoru wasn't going to show up.
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[personal profile] throe 2013-11-08 02:06 pm (UTC)(link)
It's way too convenient, even... unless someone who was meant to show up only showed up with the intention to murder Beat.
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[personal profile] inthebones 2013-11-09 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
...And purposefully sent May ahead on her own.

[A nod.]

Still. That isn't evidence more than it is conjecture.