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The Directors ([personal profile] productions) wrote in [community profile] murdermanor2013-11-07 09:26 am
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obsideo: (✖ so this is what you meant)

[personal profile] obsideo 2013-11-08 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, guys. I think I can confirm Beat was shot with that gun. Probably the bullet that's lodged into the wall. The shoulder and neck seem legit, so I don't know which one was May and which was the killer.

But the chest wound was definitely a gunshot. And since the kunai was found in there, it means someone came and shot Beat when she was knocked out, right?

Um...maybe more people should make with the alibis?
Edited 2013-11-08 02:27 (UTC)
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[personal profile] throe 2013-11-08 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
So someone did try to frame May while she was knocked unconscious. I guess they had to rush and get everything together before she woke up and they tried disguising the bullet wound as a kunai one, but did a pretty bad job of it.

Are we looking for an inexperienced killer then? Or one so experienced that they wanted the murder to look inexperienced?
obsideo: (✖ see it in my eyes)

[personal profile] obsideo 2013-11-08 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
I think the question is why use the gun at all. They had the kunai there. If Beat was down for the count from the kunai, it would be pointless to shoot him and then stab.

The only reasons would be if Beat wasn't down and it was the only weapon they had, if they wanted to make it look like Beat was still fighting, or if they wanted to frame Gundam. But based on how he's acting, he knows something about this, so I doubt it's the last one.
throe: (mater suspiria vision)

[personal profile] throe 2013-11-08 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
They didn't have his powers nullified though, they chose the weapons over it, which means they needed to be sure they could take him out. Touko's one fatality was underestimating Belarus' strength and the culprit probably didn't want to make the same mistake.

The wound on May's arm adds up to Beat attacking her, which means the culprit might have not been expecting her in the first place. They were always after Beat first, wether they got the rifle or ammunition for the revolver. They wanted to make sure he wouldn't put up a struggle or fight back with his kind of skills.

I have to agree with you on Gundam though. Something doesn't add up... it's almost like he's making himself too suspicious for a reason.
obsideo: (✖ to protect you)

[personal profile] obsideo 2013-11-08 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
Guilt? Maybe we're wrong...I haven't seen any evidence of another weapon. Maybe it was a crime of opportunity.

He killed Beat, but now he regrets it, so he's doing a terrible job of covering it up. Plus, he seems so suspicious because he doesn't have a good story about the gun. If he acted fast, he just wouldn't have one, you know? Because if he showed us the gun, we'd be able to tell whether it had been fired. So he couldn't come up with a good story and now he's a mess.
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[personal profile] throe 2013-11-08 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
He has been mixing up his stories a lot. Someone who's usually deceptive tends to keep them together... but he always seems like he's all talk and no show in the first place that it feels like something big is missing in this equation.
obsideo: (✖ can't move on)

[personal profile] obsideo 2013-11-08 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, something isn't right.

But I have a bad feeling he's trying to pull a Spain and make this more complicated than it should be.
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[personal profile] throe 2013-11-08 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
But Spain's a country, he's used to death and war. Gundam just seems like a kid who enjoys performing as much as he can. He's someone you invite to D&D, not ask to murder your worst enemy.
obsideo: (✖ can't move on)

[personal profile] obsideo 2013-11-08 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know him too well. But...I wouldn't have guessed Annie or Kanaya or Rin were plotting murder.
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[personal profile] throe 2013-11-08 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
I would have. [ Or, rather, Annie and Kanaya at least. ] All of our killers have been immaculate and accurate. They didn't break down and confess, they easily participated like everyone else. That's the clear sign of a deceiver: someone who fits in and keeps their stories straight.

I think he's definitely hiding something, but I think he's just putting on his performance because he doesn't know any other way to act. He's become so used to it that it's all he knows, even if he doesn't believe it.
obsideo: (✖ i'll face the truth)

[personal profile] obsideo 2013-11-08 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
Hmm...

So what do you think is really going on with him?
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[personal profile] throe 2013-11-08 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
Either he knows who did it or... he's just not sure how to react being put on the spot like this. Even more so when he's being implicated and most of the evidence points to him. [ She shrugs. ] He's doing what he knows how to do best.

I still have a feeling there's more to the story that we're missing. For once I agree that accusations are getting us nowhere when that time could be spent looking for evidence.

[ It's almost as if Rapture's done a complete turn around... ]
obsideo: (✖ look with your eyes)

[personal profile] obsideo 2013-11-08 03:54 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it could be something like that. Maybe he's covering for the real killer somehow.

What more evidence do you think we can find? Assuming the gun is long gone.
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[personal profile] throe 2013-11-08 02:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Whatever made Beat the way he did. He was clearly not himself when he was attacking May, there has to be something that turned him into something like that, right? Or even accounts of seeing one of us four walking from the chapel to the manor.
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[personal profile] pasodoble 2013-11-08 03:37 am (UTC)(link)
( what )

If that's the case, you'll be looking for the most obvious answer. And we have one confession and one very suspicious suspect already.

... You'll probably have this solved in a few hours, then.

( Is he being a jerk on purpose or not hmm )
obsideo: (✖ sleuth)

[personal profile] obsideo 2013-11-08 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
[Rolling her eyes.]

Yeah, thanks for the help.
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[personal profile] pasodoble 2013-11-08 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
( He doesn't even notice, )

I'm only saying! ( The most dramatic shrug, ) Sometimes it is what it is.
obsideo: (✖ can't move on)

[personal profile] obsideo 2013-11-08 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
Well, you would know.
vytis: (oh tell me why)

[personal profile] vytis 2013-11-08 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you, Miss Marlow. That means someone has to have come in while May was unconscious. They must have done something to him beforehand to make him act the way he did as well, right?
obsideo: (✖ stumped)

[personal profile] obsideo 2013-11-08 04:22 am (UTC)(link)
I guess? That doesn't sound possible...I don't know of any drug that makes you attack people.

He could have just been going for the incentive.
vytis: (I don't know what hurt you)

[personal profile] vytis 2013-11-08 04:24 am (UTC)(link)
We still need to explain the bloodshot eyes, though.
obsideo: (✖ can't move on)

[personal profile] obsideo 2013-11-08 04:25 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that's true...but that alone doesn't mean poison.
vytis: (oh tell me why)

[personal profile] vytis 2013-11-08 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
Mm. Miss May said he didn't seem to be blinded, though, so while I suppose we can't discount that she might have been lying about the situation, there must have been something else at work. [He considers.] Maybe whatever happened to his eyes happened after Miss May was unconscious?
obsideo: (✖ look with your eyes)

[personal profile] obsideo 2013-11-08 04:34 am (UTC)(link)
No, I don't think she was lying. I'm just saying, bloodshot eyes...that's not even a very common indicator of poison. It could have been an allergy, or not much sleep, or dust in his eyes.

Remember Clyde. We can't jump to conclusions based on things that might not be important. I'm not saying you're wrong, something could have caused them, but let's avoid assuming that has to be true.
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[personal profile] inthebones 2013-11-08 04:54 am (UTC)(link)
I think, perhaps, that poison isn't the right term here.

There are certain drugs that result in bloodshot eyes - and more to the point, violent hallucinations. That Beat would attack May in the chapel with the sole intent to murder her is both not terribly in character and quite stupid. He could only have known that May would be in the chapel if he overheard her discussing it with Kaoru, at which point it would be obvious the two of them intended to meet in the chapel. He wouldn't have planned a murder where Kaoru could have walked in at any moment. It was entirely unplanned that she was delayed.