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The Directors ([personal profile] productions) wrote in [community profile] murdermanor2013-11-14 10:03 am
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allice: sprite ((bite) She stays a stranger)

[personal profile] allice 2013-11-16 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
[To be fair to Sonia, Alice doesn't get along swimmingly with anyone who doesn't agree with her at nearly every turn. Sooooo pretty much everyone but Stiles, Susan and Annie ha ha ha :'|]

...I can't believe that the girl who cries at every trial when someone dies, guilty or not, killed someone like Poland. But the letter, the red herring and the crossbow...almost everything is pointing in her direction.
throe: (†‡† (ritualz))

[personal profile] throe 2013-11-16 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
The only way she would kill someone is how May might have killed someone: in self-defense.

Sonia cares about her country, she wouldn't throw it away for murder.

[ The bias is everywhere in this trial. ]
allice: sprite ((hmm) Another chance she takes)

[personal profile] allice 2013-11-16 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
But why would Poland attack her? Aside from the fact that they seemed to get along, Sonia was on the Popular list this week. Poland would have a much harder time getting through a trial when we have an extra clue to help us.

[Besides Rapture, there's a note on the theory board that says Poland 'ttyl' didn't do it!!]
throe: (mater suspiria vision)

[personal profile] throe 2013-11-16 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Because it's neither of them.

All the signs pointed to Gundam last week too, but it turned out to be someone completely different. The evidence may point to her, but the profile doesn't. It just doesn't make sense for it to be Sonia. We're looking for someone who is meticulous and unassuming like we always have.
allice: sprite ((bite) She stays a stranger)

[personal profile] allice 2013-11-16 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
[Meticulous and unassuming...only Felicia fits that bill in Alice's mind.]

The evidence is there, but not the motive. But no one has a motive. Poland wasn't on the lists, no one disliked him -- I just don't understand!
throe: (†‡† (ritualz))

[personal profile] throe 2013-11-16 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I still think it's a challenge to whomever the Mastermind is, especially because he was targeted and wasn't on any of the lists.
allice: sprite ((hmm) Another chance she takes)

[personal profile] allice 2013-11-16 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
A challenge for the Mastermind...then Poland was targeted in connection to that you think.

[It sounds...reasonable, as opposed to anything else. But it brings up a whole new slew of questions.]

Lets assume it was a challenge then. Why Poland, of everyone? What did Poland have that none of us did?
throe: (oOoOO)

[personal profile] throe 2013-11-16 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
A link to the Mastermind. They truly think they know who it is and that Poland's unknowingly been in frequent contact with them.
allice: sprite ((hmm) Another chance she takes)

[personal profile] allice 2013-11-16 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
But Poland has been in frequent contact with a lot of people. I guess if we had to narrow it down to the remaining living players, he was most around Lithuania, Annie, Sonia and Stiles, right? In that case, the assumption is one of them is the mastermind.

[But, in that case, Stiles and Sonia would need to be idiots if they were the Mastermind and went and killed Poland. It would be a huge risk to their well-being.]
throe: (VS//YOUTHCLUB)

[personal profile] throe 2013-11-16 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe one of them is. What was the incentive this week? An illness to kill off lingering contestants and even though it only killed Anya, it wasn't a prize. Eliminating you or Stiles didn't offer a prize either. There was nothing to gain this week, which means that this kill just may be a challenge.

Someone thinks they've discovered the Mastermind and they're using Poland as a means to lure them out.
allice: sprite ((bite) She stays a stranger)

[personal profile] allice 2013-11-16 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
...Then that may be the motive we're looking for. What a horrible thing to do.

[Killing Poland for something like a challenge. Making a game out of his life, more so than it has already been made for everyone else here.]
throe: (crim3s)

[personal profile] throe 2013-11-16 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I suggested it yesterday and it's still the only thing that makes sense. This isn't about deadweights or the dispensable anymore.

It's about finding the Mastermind and ending this game, that's what they want us to focus on!
allice: cg ((sullen) They've given you a number)

[personal profile] allice 2013-11-17 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
I agree.

But...we need to vote for who killed Poland. In the end that is what we are here for right now. And...Sonia...no one here has the profile of an unassuming person, but the evidence goes all to her.
throe: (crim3s)

[personal profile] throe 2013-11-17 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
Gundam certainly had evidence pointing to him, same with Latvia, and it was still proven to be someone different both times.

Sonia's country wasn't in danger with this incentive, she doesn't have any reason to kill Poland, even as a challenge. If she knew who the Mastermind is, she would have done something else about it. As a princess she's supposed to think in the best interest of the people, not just herself.

If whoever killed Poland did do it to lure the Mastermind out, then that's exactly what we have to focus on. They set up the scene so they knew they could get away with it and keep going with their plan to lure them out.
allice: cutscene ((duty) An evil mind)

[personal profile] allice 2013-11-17 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
...And why couldn't the person who tried to lure the mastermind be Sonia? It riddles out the motive perfectly. Even if she thinks of the interests of her country, she is still a human. Humans are not driven by commonplace logic, like "she must think for the best of her people, not just herself".
throe: (†‡† (ritualz))

[personal profile] throe 2013-11-17 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
I wouldn't be so sure about that.

A princess isn't going to waste all that's important for her to lure out the Mastermind, especially if she's not fully sure who it is. That's a role for someone far more sadistic and unassuming than most of us apparently want to admit.
inthebones: (Skeptical)

[personal profile] inthebones 2013-11-17 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
...

But if that's the case, shouldn't we be encouraging them rather than executing them? We're here to defeat the Mastermind once and for all. The more trials that take place, the more people will needlessly die.

I don't buy it, by the way. No one would kill Poland simply to make the Mastermind unhappy. That would entail a level of sociopathy almost equal to the Mastermind themselves. You can't go around killing someone's friends because they're a murderer.
throe: (†‡† (ritualz))

[personal profile] throe 2013-11-17 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
Eight weeks in and you're really surprised that people may be doing things like that? We've seen a cat play for the sake of fun, someone act exactly calm after dismembering a body, we've known since day one that someone's been pulling the strings from the start.

Is it really hard to believe that someone would murder Poland to pose a challenge to someone who is and has been playing with us for weeks? This isn't a monastery, it's a game of survival... and people will do whatever they can to survive.
inthebones: (Skeptical)

[personal profile] inthebones 2013-11-17 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Why wouldn't they simply kill the person they believed to be the Mastermind? It's entirely convoluted and doesn't accomplish any practical aim. The people who have committed the crimes in the past did so out of selfish intent; someone who's targeting the Mastermind would assumedly be trying to defeat this game.
pandacea: (point | he pulls out a gun and fires it)

[personal profile] pandacea 2013-11-16 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree completely! Even if it was to save all of our lives, Miss Sonia would not kill someone she was friends with. And Poland lived in our wing, so luring him down to the dining room would have made things far more difficult for her!
throe: (oOoOO)

[personal profile] throe 2013-11-16 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sure you and Sonia understand the ridiculous assumptions toward those of hierarchy like I do. If they saw her interactions with Gundam, I'm sure they'd think much different. [ She gives a little smirk. ]

We've had culprits who have tried to pin it on people like Sonia. Ukraine and Latvia are a perfect example of what happens when we don't pay attention to the profile along with the evidence.