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The Directors ([personal profile] productions) wrote in [community profile] murdermanor2013-10-24 10:19 am
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[personal profile] inthebones 2013-10-24 06:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Belarus was on the dispensable list. She couldn't have had her powers nullified beforehand. And the prize for killing her wouldn't have been awarded until after the trial, so they couldn't have asked for poison to kill Michael with.

...Unless the intended victim was Michael, and they received the poison and the key beforehand, and they... dismembered Belarus as nothing more than a red herring. Lithuania suggested something along those lines yesterday, but it seems... too much.
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[personal profile] notyetlost 2013-10-24 06:59 pm (UTC)(link)
One of Belarus' limbs wasn't just chopped up though. It was like all charred like they tried to set it on fire.

Usually if you're setting stuff on fire you don't want it to exist anymore for someone to find it, so I don't think they intended for it to be a red herring.
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[personal profile] throe 2013-10-24 07:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe they tried throwing the limb at the fence to get rid of it, but found out it didn't work the way they wanted it to. They could have started it as an experiment and when they found it didn't work, they started placing parts everywhere else.
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[personal profile] humanic 2013-10-24 07:15 pm (UTC)(link)
It's an electric fence - wouldn't that cause charring?
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[personal profile] throe 2013-10-24 07:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd like to think a charred leg may be enough evidence that they at least attempted to give it a try.
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[personal profile] inthebones 2013-10-24 07:15 pm (UTC)(link)
...That does seem most likely although rather... stupid. Burning the body in the fireplace would have resulted in a terrifically nauseating odor. I don't see how they thought they could have burnt it at all.
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[personal profile] throe 2013-10-24 07:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe they thought dismembering her would make it easier to burn the body in some way. With the right timing, they could have done it so that no one noticed they were testing it out.

Their intention could have been to burn it so that we'd have a harder time being able to distinguish what happened, but it didn't end up as planned when they found out it doesn't work.
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[personal profile] inthebones 2013-10-24 07:27 pm (UTC)(link)
So you think they chopped her up, intending to throw all the pieces at the fence until they crumbled to ash. When it didn't work, it resulted in the grisly scene we found.

[A frown.]

I really don't know if anyone would have believed a body could be so thoroughly disintegrated that way. I'm inclined to think the dismemberment was for another reason.
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[personal profile] throe 2013-10-24 07:34 pm (UTC)(link)
The only other reason to me would be to plant body parts around the house for others to find as some sort of enjoyment, but then why try to get rid of one leg by burning it?

It seems pointless to leave every other limb somewhere and attempt to burn only one of them.
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[personal profile] inthebones 2013-10-24 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
...The leg was charred, not completely ground into dust. The missing foot was found as well - I don't think we're actually missing anything; Lithuania's leg had a foot attached.

Whatever the ash was, I don't think it was burnt up Belarus bits.
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[personal profile] throe 2013-10-24 09:00 pm (UTC)(link)
It still bares question of why try to burn it in the first place? Unless...

Do you think their clothes were wrapped around the leg as a means to get rid of any evidence of blood on clothing?
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[personal profile] inthebones 2013-10-25 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
...How much ash was there? Certainly not enough to have come from a full set of clothing, could it?

It's more plausible than trying to disintegrate her body against the fence, anyway.
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[personal profile] throe 2013-10-25 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe it wasn't an entire set of clothes. Maybe it was something smaller like a shirt or pair of gloves. They could have wrapped it around the leg to not get anything on their hands and then used the fence to be rid of it.

Still, you have to wonder where the rest of the clothes would be then or if they were burned in an entirely different way.
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[personal profile] inthebones 2013-10-25 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
...Bloody clothing would still take some time to burn; I don't know that they could have risked disposing of it in the fireplace. If we finally are missing bloody clothes this time, I suggest they've been hidden somewhere we're unlikely to search.
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[personal profile] throe 2013-10-25 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
Unless the Hostess was feeling generous, I don't think another secret passage was involved with this one and I hardly doubt they'd be dumb enough to hide it in their rooms.

Maybe they're hidden behind a bookcase?
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[personal profile] inthebones 2013-10-25 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
They could be hidden behind any number of things. It's perfectly possible we might not find it in the time of the trial - we'd know when they started to smell, I suppose.